Partial Transcript: 1. Did your parents ever punish you? For what? How?
Segment Synopsis: They talk about punishment. Joan says that the strap was used as punishment. If a child got the strap at school, they often also got it at home. Her father never strapped them, and she says he was not violent. She talks about fathers. She says that she was never strapped by Jack Sandul but her brothers were. Joan says instead of strapping them, most of the time he would rattle the belt and that would frighten them. She talks about her mother being the main disciplinarian and would give the boys a sort of time out. When things got out of hand her mother would yell and lecture the kids, and Joan says that is how she would get her frustrations out. She says children would never talk back to their parents. She says children would get a strap for lying. She recounts a story about stealing a chocolate bar as a child. Joan talks about teachers' using the strap, and says that it was not meant to be mean, but to train the children. She talks about modern disciplinary practices. She says that the rules were roughly aligned with the Ten Commandments. The interviewer tells his own childhood stories of being disciplined. Joan talks about being a teacher, and her own set of teaching rules. They talk about sending kids to stand in the corner, or stand at the blackboard. Joan tells a story about punishing one of her past students, Mary Bilesky. She talks about responsibility, and says she can't believe how responsible children are now and how hard they work. Joan says that parents now are scared of their children, especially teenagers. She talks more about how responsible kids are now, and her worries that they will burn out from the pressure. They talk about sibling rivalries. Joan compares it to marriage, and says that people are either lucky or unlucky. She says that she was lucky and that her boys get along. She says that she does not have a close relationship with her younger brothers but they still talk. In her own family, the girls don't get along even into adulthood. Joan says there is nothing that parents can do when these rivalries happen. The interviewer talks about his mother's family, and the roles of each sibling, and Joan connects that back to her own family. She talks about her children and their roles, in particular the "forgotten middle child."
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Segment Synopsis: At this point, family comes in and the interview will soon come to a close. The interviewer asks Joan if there is anything else she would like to say. Joan likes that this project is focusing on a specific time period, up until World War II. She hopes that future generations don't leave her and her generation out on the homestead. She also hopes that soon they will be able to cover the whole century since they are in a new century. Joan talks about her own interviews, and says that the people she interviewed that were born around the turn of the century only wanted to talk about the homestead and community life. She says that this collapsed with the advent of technology and children leaving the community, and that people had little to say about their lives afterwards. Joan says her generation is different, and although they started on the homestead, they also want to talk about where they went after. She talks about the pride in her generation's accomplishments. She continues to talk about her hopes for the time span of the research to extend past the '40's before it is too late. Joan talks about going to a yoga retreat in New Mexico, and people talking about the downfall of society. She says the next generation should listen to these tapes to see where they come from. She talks about David Goa, who says that people have "cultural amnesia." Joan says that her own grandchildren have some interest in history, but modern technology creates too much noise and isolation. She compares the erosion of Canadian and American identity. She continues to reflect on her worries about society. She talks about the importance of the "little people" telling and archiving their stories. Joan says that the tape recorder is the most democratic thing that ever happened. She talks more about the importance of oral interviews. Joan talks about starting to write her own book, and her and the interviewer share their final thoughts.