Interview with Joan Margel (née Bayers) 1.3

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Title

Interview with Joan Margel (née Bayers) 1.3

Subject

migration and settlement
work
farming
folk medicine

Date

2004-07-09

Format

audio

Identifier

2004-091-0723

Oral History Item Type Metadata

Interviewer

Kozakov, Serhiy

Interviewee

Margel, Joan

OHMS Object Text

5.4 Interview with Joan Margel (née Bayers) 1.3 2004-091-0723 25:54 U2 Local Cultures migration and settlement work farming folk medicine Margel, Joan Kozakov, Serhiy mp3 2004-091-0723.mp3 0 http://206.12.88.230:8080/lcp/2004/2004-091-0723.mp3 Other audio English 0 Seeds and Crops 1. What crops did your family grow? What crops grow well there? What did you have in your vegetable garden? 2. Where did you get seeds? Joan's father, John Bayers, worked at the Beaverlodge Experimental Station to find out what kinds of wheat would grow there. They grew wheat, oats, and barley, and she remembers fields of flax. Later they grew broom grass, fescue, and alfalfa. She says they couldn't grow corn, but there were a lot of bees. They couldn't plant anything until May 24th because of frost. Joan says they had huge kapustas, but couldn't grow cucumbers. People in the area also grew peas, beans, pumpkins, yams, carrots, and potatoes. She mentions that the cellar was very important for food storage. Joan talks about how people got more seeds by replanting cabbages and carrots. Her mother was good at making ham and bacon, but did not have a smokehouse. 53.550, -113.469 12 Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada http://awmp.athabascau.ca/memoir/margel/ Joan Margel for the Alberta Women's Memory Project https://southpeacearchives.org/holdings-2/finding-aids/fonds-604-joan-margel-fonds/ Joan Margel fonds 470 Poppies for Medicinal Purposes 1. Comments about Ukrainians growing poppies? 2. Comments on the use of poppy seeds for medical purposes. Joan says that Mrs. Warnick had the best poppies, but it was illegal, so the RCMP would come and destroy them because they didn't understand their medicinal purpose. Her mother and others would soak poppy seeds with sugar and milk and give it to colicky babies. She says that around the '70's the Edmonton police began to search for and destroy poppies. 591 Household Chores and Social Roles 1. What was the division of chores in the family? Were there any differences between girls and boys, men and women? Joan says that there were lots of differences between responsibilities for boys and girls. She says that boys were favourites, and that girls had to do extra work and take on a motherly role. She says that girls had to do all of the housework, and the boys got to go hunting and work outdoors. She says that her children's generation expects equal division of labour between boys and girls, and she made sure her boys knew how to cook and clean. Joan talks about being in Kulivtsi in the '90's with a relative who was a women's libber, and an incident in which her relative (Elsie) got upset with a male relative for the way he spoke about women. Joan talks about how the men all lost their jobs in the '90's, and would wait for the women to do all of the chores for them. She talks about feeling bad for these men. Joan says that all of her family came over in family units except for her Kushnerik grandfather who worked in the Pennsylvania coal mines. 55.750, -118.719 12 Locality: Rycroft, Alberta, Canada 48.634, 25.828 12 Locality: Kulivtsi, Chernivtsi Oblast, Ukraine 1160 Immigration, Regret, and the Old Country 1. Did anybody in the community ever regret coming to Canada or went back to the old country? 2. What did your family tell you about the old country? Joan talks about working with Hungarian refugees who missed their home but had to leave. She says the Rudeichuk's left because there was nothing for them in Ukraine and the war was coming. She mentions some people that either wanted to go back to Ukraine, or did go back, but that her three families had arrived young and were grateful to be in Canada. They talk about how hard life was in Ukraine, and that there was nothing. She mentions that Gido had a family, but not a stable roof over his head because of the feudal system. Her parents were born in Canada, and her Grandparents were born in the old country, but they did not talk about it with her often. 1438 Farm Life and Livestock 1. What was the busiest farming time? 2. What kind of livestock did you have? Joan says that the summer was the busiest time at the farm because of the planting. She talks about how the women and girls had to do most of the gardening work without the men's help. She says they had four horses because they had to pull the plow. They cut a lot of hay in the sloughs, and Joan says that her dad had a big barn full of hay. No transcript. audio 0 https://localcultures.ukrfolk.ca/ohms/render.php?cachefile=

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