Interview with Joan Margel (née Bayers) 1.2

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Title

Interview with Joan Margel (née Bayers) 1.2

Subject

ancestry
migration and settlement
work
farming
relationships

Date

2004-07-09

Format

audio

Identifier

2004-091-0722

Oral History Item Type Metadata

Interviewer

Kozakov, Serhiy

Interviewee

Margel, Joan

OHMS Object Text

5.4 Interview with Joan Margel (née Bayers) 1.2 2004-091-0722 27:01 U2 Local Cultures ancestry migration and settlement work farming relationships Margel, Joan Kozakov, Serhiy mp3 2004-091-0722.mp3 0 http://206.12.88.230:8080/lcp/2004/2004-091-0722.mp3 Other audio English 0 Ancestry and Migration 1. What is your ancestry? 2. Relationships between Halicians, Bukovynians and Polish in Rycroft area? 3. Who was the first generation that came to Canada in your family? 4. What were the reasons for immigrating to Canada? Joan talks about her Ukrainian ancestry, and says that her family is from Kulivtsi and Verenchanka and that many others in the Rycroft area including her stepfather were from Bridok. She mentions that they were all Bukovinians and discusses the relationship between the Galicians, Bukovinians and Poles in the Rycroft area. Joan says that her grandmother did not like the Poles. She talks about the first generation of her family migrating to Canada on a small ship that left from Hamburg, Germany, and she also talks about why they came to Canada. Her family had $40 when they arrived in Canada, and her grandmother was 17 years old. This is the Rudeichuk side of her family that moved to Saskatchewan. In Canada, her grandmother married a boy from the next town over in Ukraine. Joan says that Gido (her grandfather) did not want his sons to go to the military and that was why they came to Canada. She then talks about the Rudeichuk family reunions that happen every 10 years, and the history book that the family writes that captures each generation. Their reunions have been in Wakaw, Rycroft, and the Ukrainian Village. 53.550, -113.469 12 Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada 52.650, -105.734 12 Locality: Wakaw, Saskatchewan, Canada 55.750, -118.719 12 Locality: Rycroft, Alberta, Canada 53.567, -112.802 12 Locality: Ukrainian Cultural Heritage Village Provincial Historic Site 48.546, 25.741 12 Locality: Verenchanka, Chernivtsi Oblast, Ukraine 48.634, 25.828 12 Locality: Kulivtsi, Chernivtsi Oblast, Ukraine 48.616, 25.975 12 Locality: Bridok, Chernivtsi Oblast, Ukraine http://awmp.athabascau.ca/memoir/margel/ Joan Margel for the Alberta Women's Memory Project https://southpeacearchives.org/holdings-2/finding-aids/fonds-604-joan-margel-fonds/ Joan Margel fonds 482 Settlement and Resettlement 1. Where did they settle first? 2. Reasons that the family moved to Peace River Country. Resettlement details. Joan says that the Sanduls went to Stuartburn, Manitoba following the first Bukovinians, the Zaharas. The Zahara descendants are now in Rycroft, and Joan wrote an article about this. After 10-15 years they left because of the rocky soil, and then moved to Prince Albert. She says that the Peace River Country was highly advertised in the '20's. Both her mother's and father's family moved from Saskatchewan to the Rycroft area in 1928. 49.133, -96.517 12 Locality: Stuartburn, Manitoba, Canada 55.750, -118.719 12 Locality: Rycroft, Alberta, Canada 53.200, -105.768 12 Locality: Prince Albert, Saskatchewan, Canada 731 Farm Life 1. How did they choose their quarter? 2. How did your family make a living? 3. What sources of water supply did you have? 4. What did you use for food refrigeration? Joan's mother told her that when her father was choosing a quarter section he took a spade, dug it in the soil, smelled and tasted it, and continued doing this every few feet. Joan says her family tried to have a slough to help with water retention. For drinking water they dug a well, and dug another well to use as refrigeration. She says that Ukrainians made good farmers because they knew more about building with logs than the Anglo-Saxons. She says that the Indigenous people made low log houses so that less heating was needed, and Ukrainians made their homes a bit taller. Uncle Steve Baduk would judge the family's mud and clay mixtures. Men would carry it and women would put the plaster on. Joan says in Peace Country they all had wood stoves. She interviewed her father about how to build a house, and he said that he built it for $10 and explained the process to her. She also explains how her family used different kinds of trees for different purposes, and says that the Ukrainians and Lithuanians were good builders. 1359 Land Clearing 1. Tell me how your family clear land at the farm? 2. Comments about neighbors helping each other. Joan talks about her family clearing the land, and says that there are different techniques. She says windfalls were when the old growth trees would fall on top of each other. The old growth would be burned in the spring to avoid fires. They would use horses to pull the trees down. Joan says the kids job was to pick the leftover roots. She says Johnny Kozenko would help her dad, who would then help him with something in return. No transcript. audio 0 https://localcultures.ukrfolk.ca/ohms/render.php?cachefile=

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